{"id":2142,"date":"2013-04-19T22:26:43","date_gmt":"2013-04-19T21:26:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fjala.info\/?p=2142"},"modified":"2013-04-19T22:26:43","modified_gmt":"2013-04-19T21:26:43","slug":"ndreca-i-pandershem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fjala.info\/2009-2015\/ndreca-i-pandershem\/","title":{"rendered":"Ndreca i pandersh\u00ebm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-7236\" title=\"Kish\u00eb e Xhami\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.fjala.info\/2013\/mosque_church_dp.jpg\" width=\"300\" \/> Nga <strong>Armir Taraj<\/strong>, <em>19 prill 2013<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca m\u00eb vuri koh\u00ebt e fundit n\u00eb pozit\u00eb me shkrimin e tij \u201cMashtrimi si vokacion\u201d, t\u00eb cilin e botoi tek Respublica si p\u00ebrgjigje, apo polemik\u00eb, me shkrimin tim \u201cKu jan\u00eb katolik\u00ebt e moderuar\u201d. Shkrimi i Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndrec\u00ebs m\u00eb ka habitur tej mase me gjuh\u00ebn e tij prej rruga\u00e7i, sulmet dhe fyerjet personale pa limit, q\u00eb nga \u201cmashtrues\u201d e \u201cgdh\u00eb\u201d deri n\u00eb \u201cbir kurve\u201d e th\u00ebn\u00eb indirekt n\u00ebp\u00ebrmjet citimit t\u00eb nj\u00eb shprehje t\u00eb vjet\u00ebr t\u00eb Konic\u00ebs me \u201cbij kurvash\u201d q\u00eb rreshtoheshin n\u00eb an\u00ebn anti-komb\u00ebtare t\u00eb historis\u00eb (k\u00ebt\u00eb t\u00eb fundit Ndreca mund edhe ta mohoj\u00eb duke th\u00ebn\u00eb \u201cpo pse t\u00eb dogji ty? Konica e kishte p\u00ebr tradhtar\u00ebt e kombit\u201d, por sigurisht q\u00eb efekti ofendues dhe sh\u00ebnjestra e k\u00ebsaj sharje isha un\u00eb.)<\/p>\n<p>Gjithkush mund t\u00eb marr\u00eb pen\u00ebn e t\u00eb hartoj\u00eb nj\u00eb shkrim plot fyerje e sharje kreative, duke u munduar k\u00ebshtu t\u00eb shkat\u00ebrroj\u00eb personalitetin e kund\u00ebrshtarit. Kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb di\u00e7ka e re ose e papritur n\u00eb shtypin shqiptar ku sulmet personale jan\u00eb metod\u00eb e preferuar e debatit. Habia ime u shkaktua nga fakti q\u00eb ky v\u00ebrshim i llumt\u00eb banalitetesh m\u2019u hodh p\u00ebrsip\u00ebr nga dikush q\u00eb ka mbaruar doktoratur\u00ebn n\u00eb Universitetin Urbaniana n\u00eb Vatikan, dikush q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb profesor n\u00eb universitetin prestigjoz John Carroll University n\u00eb Vatikan, ku mes t\u00eb tjerash jep dhe l\u00ebnd\u00ebn Mendimtar\u00ebt e Krishter\u00eb, dikush q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb kryeredaktori i revist\u00ebs m\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme katolike shqiptare \u201cHylli i Drit\u00ebs\u201d, dikush q\u00eb ka shkruar me dhjet\u00ebra shkrime, analiza, ese e p\u00ebrqasje n\u00eb gazetat m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha shqiptare, dikush q\u00eb njihet e respektohet n\u00eb gjirin e intelektual\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb. Q\u00eb dikush kaq i ngritur n\u00eb pozit\u00eb t\u00eb bjer\u00eb n\u00eb nivelin e nj\u00eb rruga\u00e7i e cubi mediatik ishte v\u00ebrtet shokuese, jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr mua, por, me sa pash\u00eb, p\u00ebr shumic\u00ebn d\u00ebrrmuese t\u00eb lexuesve t\u00eb Respublik\u00ebs.<\/p>\n<p>Gjithsesi, n\u00ebse do kaloja nj\u00eb moment p\u00ebrtej habis\u00eb e p\u00ebrtej efektit emocional t\u00eb shkrimit t\u00eb Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndrec\u00ebs, dhe p\u00ebr t\u00eb sqaruar ata pak lexues q\u00eb mund ta ken\u00eb marr\u00eb seriozisht pretendimin e Ndrec\u00ebs, se un\u00eb jam nj\u00eb mashtrues profesional q\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqem t\u00eb manipuloj fjal\u00ebt e tij dhe mendjen e lexuesve, po b\u00ebj m\u00eb posht\u00eb disa zb\u00ebrthime t\u00eb vogla inxhinierike t\u00eb k\u00ebtij pretendimi.<\/p>\n<p><em>Prerje 1A<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca shkruan se un\u00eb kam nd\u00ebrruar kryefjal\u00ebn e pohimit t\u00eb tij dhe se, si nj\u00eb mashtrues i posht\u00ebr, kam futur substantivin \u201cIslami\u201d aty ku ai qart\u00ebsisht i ishte referuar nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr \u201c<em>shpirti t\u00eb keq g\u00ebrmadhash<\/em>\u201d, nostalgjis\u00eb otomane. N\u00eb fakt, k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb un\u00eb e sqarova disi n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjen time ndaj komentit t\u00eb Dom Gjergj Met\u00ebs tek shkrimi im fillestar, p\u00ebrgjigje t\u00eb cil\u00ebn Ndreca patjet\u00ebr do e ket\u00eb lexuar para se t\u00eb q\u00ebndiste sulmin e tij ndaj meje. Aty un\u00eb thash\u00eb: \u201cNdoshta me &#8220;<em>nji shpirt i keq germadhash nji fryme qe s&#8217;asht tjeter vecse gerbula qe na ka lane barbaria otomane<\/em>&#8221; Ndreca kerkon te tregoje me gisht di\u00e7ka tjeter qe na kane lene turqit perve\u00e7 Islamit, di\u00e7ka kaq te keqe qe e shqetesoka Ndrecen kaq shume dhe i sillka te tilla emocione. Nuk e di \u00e7&#8217;ka pas\u00eb ai ne mendje, ndoshta ai mundet te na sqaroje. Une dhe ata me te cilet e kam diskutuar kete shkrim, e kemi interpretuar kete reference te Ndreces si nje sulm dashakeqes ndaj Islamit. Si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb e qart\u00eb k\u00ebtu, un\u00eb e pranova se ka nj\u00eb ambiguitet n\u00eb fjal\u00ebt e Ndrec\u00ebs, por interpretimi im dhe i shum\u00eb miqve t\u00eb mij ishte se Ndreca k\u00ebtu po i referohej Islamit. Faktin q\u00eb ky s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm interpretimi im personal e pohoi edhe forumi musliman E-zani-i-nalt\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt botuan edhe shkrimin e tyre si p\u00ebrgjigje ndaj Ndrec\u00ebs.<\/p>\n<p><em>Prerje 1B<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca harron t\u00eb v\u00ebr\u00eb re se fjal\u00ebt e tij, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt un\u00eb i gjeta ofenduese ndaj meje e fes\u00eb time, po ashtu i quajti ofenduese imzot George Frendo n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjen e tij ndaj meje, t\u00eb cilin edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb e fal\u00ebnderoj publikisht p\u00ebr civilitetin e tij dhe frym\u00ebn v\u00ebllaz\u00ebrore, ku ai u shpreh se \u201c<em>Fjale te tilla nuk kontribuojne per nje dialog konstruktiv mes katolikeve dhe muslimaneve, madje cenojne marredheniet e mira qe gjithmone kane egzistuar mes nesh<\/em>.\u201d Si e komenton Ndreca k\u00ebt\u00eb distancim prej fjal\u00ebve t\u00eb tij nga imzot Frendo? A \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe Frendo mashtrues? Apo edhe Frendo po keqinterpreton fjal\u00ebt e Ndrec\u00ebs?<\/p>\n<p><em>Prerje 1C<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Edhe n\u00ebse un\u00eb do kisha gabuar n\u00eb interpretimin tim, gj\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb krejt\u00ebsisht e mundshme, jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr nj\u00eb \u201cstudent inxhenjerie\u201d por edhe p\u00ebr studiues t\u00eb mir\u00ebfillt\u00eb t\u00eb fush\u00ebs, m\u00ebnyra civile e p\u00ebrgjigjes nga ana e Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndrec\u00ebs do kishte qen\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00ebrhiqte v\u00ebrejtjen e me mir\u00ebsjellje t\u00eb m\u00eb informonte p\u00ebr keqinterpretimin tim duke m\u00eb shpjeguar kuptimin e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb t\u00eb fjal\u00ebve t\u00eb tij. Kjo do kishte qen\u00eb m\u00ebnyra e bukur katolike e zhvillimit t\u00eb k\u00ebtij debati, edhe pse un\u00eb e Ndreca mund t\u00eb vazhdojm\u00eb t\u00eb kemi q\u00ebndrime e ide thell\u00ebsisht t\u00eb ndryshme rreth trash\u00ebgimis\u00eb son\u00eb osmane.<\/p>\n<p>Q\u00eb profesori me aq zell e ngulm t\u2019i thot\u00eb studentit se ai di e ky i fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb \u201cgdh\u00eb\u201d e nuk di, \u00ebsht\u00eb kulmi i arroganc\u00ebs. Por q\u00eb profesori t\u2019i thot\u00eb studentit se ky i fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb mashtrues ngaq\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb \u201cgdh\u00eb\u201d e nuk di, ky \u00ebsht\u00eb, sipas mendimit tim, kulmi i pandershm\u00ebris\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><em>Prerje 2<\/em><br \/>\nProfesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca pretendon se ai, p\u00ebr nji milion arsye, nuk ka shkruar kurr\u00eb nj\u00eb rresht p\u00ebr islamin. Si\u00e7 e vun\u00eb n\u00eb dukje disa komentues k\u00ebtu, dhe po ashtu e-zani tek p\u00ebrgjigja e tyre, Ndreca, jo m\u00eb larg se Shtatori i 2012-s, citohet t\u00eb ket\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb: &#8220;<em>Che il comunismo albanese sia stato di matrice islamica lo dimostra l\u2019accanimento speciale nei confronti della Chiesa cattolica e dei suoi membri<\/em>.&#8221; Pra na del se Ndreca, jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb ka folur p\u00ebr islamin, por ka folur n\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb ekstreme. Ai ka p\u00ebrqafuar tez\u00ebn se islami ka frym\u00ebzuar komunizmin shqiptar dhe kjo, sipas tij, shpjegon eg\u00ebrsin\u00eb e pazakont\u00eb t\u00eb regjimit monist tek ne n\u00eb krahasim me vendet e tjera komuniste, e po ashtu shpjegon luft\u00ebn e eg\u00ebr t\u00eb komunist\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb ndaj klerit dhe Kish\u00ebs Katolike. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb q\u00ebndrim tep\u00ebr ekstrem i Ndrec\u00ebs, q\u00ebndrim q\u00eb padyshim nuk p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebson kish\u00ebn katolike shqiptare por vet\u00ebm sa frym\u00ebzon pala\u00e7ot e faqeve ekstremiste si <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zemrashqiptare.net\">www.zemrashqiptare.net<\/a>, ku urrejtja fetare ndaj shqiptar\u00ebve musliman\u00eb v\u00ebrshon friksh\u00ebm \u00e7do dit\u00eb. Edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb Ndreca tregohet i pandersh\u00ebm me debatuesin e tij rishtar, por edhe m\u00eb keq, me lexuesit e tij.<\/p>\n<p><em>Prerje 3<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca shpreh habi se si un\u00eb nuk them asnj\u00eb fjal\u00eb rreth thelbit t\u00eb shkrimit t\u00eb tij origjinal mbi k\u00ebrkes\u00ebn e qeveris\u00eb turke p\u00ebr rishikimin e teksteve shkollore t\u00eb historis\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri e Kosov\u00eb. Un\u00eb nuk them gj\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb sepse, zoti Ndreca, un\u00eb s\u2019kam asgj\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb rreth k\u00ebsaj teme. Me k\u00ebt\u00eb pun\u00eb le t\u00eb merren historian\u00ebt e specialist\u00ebt, dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb e drejta juaj e plot\u00eb t\u00eb mbani q\u00ebndrimin q\u00eb mbani, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb q\u00ebndrim i vlefsh\u00ebm, po ashtu si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe q\u00ebndrimi kund\u00ebrshtar. Shqet\u00ebsimi i ngritur prej meje nuk ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb fare me librat e historis\u00eb a me peticionin e famsh\u00ebm intelektual kund\u00ebr rishikimit t\u00eb tyre. Un\u00eb jam thjesht nj\u00eb qytetar i shqet\u00ebsuar nga niveli i retorik\u00ebs islamofobe n\u00eb diskursin publik, sidomos kur kjo retorik\u00eb vjen nga drejtues t\u00eb lart\u00eb katolik\u00eb si ju, apo Dom Shan Zefi n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Ky ishte shqet\u00ebsimi q\u00eb ngrita, si n\u00eb letrat e mia ndaj autoriteteve katolike, ashtu edhe n\u00eb shkrimin tim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sh\u00ebnime udh\u00ebzuese p\u00ebr konstruktorin<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c7far\u00eb pritet prej Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndrec\u00ebs tani? Nj\u00eb idealist i marr\u00eb si un\u00eb q\u00eb akoma beson tek civiliteti i shqiptar\u00ebve dhe mund\u00ebsia e tjetrit p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndryshuar, do priste q\u00eb Ndreca ta pranonte gabimin e tij e t\u2019u k\u00ebrkonte falje lexuesve t\u00eb tij p\u00ebr shkeljet e shumta etike, e ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht t\u2019i k\u00ebrkonte falje studentit t\u00eb inxhinieris\u00eb n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, t\u00eb cilin e ka fyer dhe ofenduar pa t\u00eb drejt\u00eb. Gjithashtu, do prisja q\u00eb Ndreca t\u00eb dilte e t\u00eb na sqaronte q\u00ebndrimin e tij rreth shkrimit t\u00eb sip\u00ebrcituar ku ai kaq leht\u00ebsisht nd\u00ebrlidh islamin shqiptar me komunizmin. K\u00ebt\u00eb do e shihja si nj\u00eb obligim moral t\u00eb Ndrec\u00ebs ndaj mbar\u00eb lexuesve t\u00eb tij shqiptar\u00eb, por ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht ndaj lexuesve musliman\u00eb e atyre katolik\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>Si p\u00ebrfundim, n\u00eb vend t\u00eb fjal\u00ebve t\u00eb \u201cbukura\u201d t\u00eb Konic\u00ebs, po e l\u00eb Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndrec\u00ebn me fjal\u00ebt e nj\u00eb intelektuali pak m\u00eb modern shqiptar, Dom Gjergj Meta: \u201c<em>K\u00ebsisoj, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb katolik, t\u00eb kujtoj\u00eb e t\u00eb ushqehet me at\u00eb \u00e7ka ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn, \u00ebsht\u00eb sinonim i vitalitetit, por kthehet n\u00eb nj\u00eb ushqim dhe uj\u00eb t\u00eb ndenjur, n\u00ebse ajo nuk p\u00ebrt\u00ebrihet me at\u00eb \u00e7ka un\u00eb sot jam. E vet\u00ebdija e par\u00eb q\u00eb sot ne duhet t\u00eb kemi \u00ebsht\u00eb se ajo societas christiana, e cila mbizot\u00ebronte n\u00eb shekujt e Mesjet\u00ebs n\u00eb gjith\u00eb Europ\u00ebn, por edhe n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, sot nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e till\u00eb. Realiteti plural n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin jetojm\u00eb, nxjerr p\u00ebrball\u00eb nesh sfida t\u00eb tjera, t\u00eb reja. Pluralizmin kulturor dhe fetar, t\u00eb cilin un\u00eb e prek \u00e7do dit\u00eb k\u00ebtu ku jetoj, mund ta prek\u00ebsh n\u00eb metropolet m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha europiane, Rom\u00eb, Paris, Lond\u00ebr, e m\u00eb gjer\u00eb, edhe pse n\u00ebnshtrati i k\u00ebtyre metropoleve \u00ebsht\u00eb i krishter\u00eb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Pluralizmi fetar n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb fakt. Mohimi i k\u00ebtij fakti \u00ebsht\u00eb s\u00eb paku naivitet e s\u00eb shumti dashakeq\u00ebsi. Un\u00eb nuk jam prej atyre q\u00eb e idealizoj fort bashk\u00ebjetes\u00ebn fetare n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb e mir\u00eb, por ka edhe problemet e veta. M\u00eb shum\u00eb sesa nj\u00eb fakt ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb proces q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb k\u00ebrkohet e t\u00eb realizohet p\u00ebrdit\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nga Armir Taraj, 19 prill 2013 Profesor Doktor Ardian Ndreca m\u00eb vuri koh\u00ebt e fundit n\u00eb pozit\u00eb me shkrimin e tij \u201cMashtrimi si vokacion\u201d, t\u00eb cilin e botoi tek Respublica si p\u00ebrgjigje, apo polemik\u00eb, me shkrimin tim \u201cKu jan\u00eb katolik\u00ebt e moderuar\u201d. 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