{"id":13530,"date":"2014-04-29T14:42:15","date_gmt":"2014-04-29T13:42:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fjala.info\/?p=1082"},"modified":"2014-04-29T14:42:15","modified_gmt":"2014-04-29T13:42:15","slug":"ismail-kadare-po-u-behen-nderime-atyre-qe-duhet-te-vuanin-ne-heshtje-te-hapen-patjeter-dosjet-interviste","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fjala.info\/2009-2015\/ismail-kadare-po-u-behen-nderime-atyre-qe-duhet-te-vuanin-ne-heshtje-te-hapen-patjeter-dosjet-interviste\/","title":{"rendered":"ISMAIL KADARE – PO U B\u00cbHEN NDERIME ATYRE Q\u00cb DUHET T\u00cb VUANIN N\u00cb HESHTJE, T\u00cb HAPEN PATJET\u00cbR DOSJET (Intervist\u00eb)"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\" 29.04.2014<\/em><\/p>\n

Shkrimtari Ismail Kadare rr\u00ebfen p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb intrigat e Sigurimit t\u00eb Shtetit, komplotet q\u00eb i jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb, p\u00ebr ta rekrutuar apo futur n\u00eb kurth dhe madje koleg\u00eb artist\u00eb, q\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqeshin ta t\u00ebrhiqnin n\u00eb k\u00ebto komplote bashk\u00eb me regjimin. N\u00eb emisionin \u201cDebati\u201d t\u00eb gazetarit Roland Qafoku, shkrimtari rr\u00ebfen momentin si e p\u00ebrjetoi lajmin se Dhora Leka i kishte k\u00ebrkuar diktatorit Enver Hoxha q\u00eb t\u00eb fuste n\u00eb kurth Kadaren\u00eb. M\u00eb tej mendimi se dosjet e Sigurimit t\u00eb Shtetit duhet t\u00eb hapen, pasi \u201cnd\u00ebrgjegjja komb\u00ebtare duhet pastruar\u201d. Dhe nj\u00eb detaj se si me nj\u00eb ekspertiz\u00eb t\u00eb tij p\u00ebr nj\u00eb poezi, shkrimtari shp\u00ebtoi ndoshta edhe nga pushkatimi nj\u00eb t\u00eb ri aspirant p\u00ebr poet.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje zoti Kadare! N\u00eb median e shkruar dit\u00ebt e fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb botuar nj\u00eb let\u00ebr q\u00eb kompozitorja Dhora Leka, i ka d\u00ebrguar diktatorit Enver Hoxha n\u00eb vitin 1967, n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin shprehet se ka bashk\u00ebpunuar me Sigurimin e Shtetit dhe synonte q\u00eb t\u2019iu fuste ju n\u00eb kurth. Ju si e keni pritur botimin e k\u00ebsaj letre unikale, q\u00eb nuk ka ndodhur ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, ndoshta edhe n\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb Evrop\u00ebn ish-komuniste?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb rast i rrall\u00eb, mesa e njoh un\u00eb jet\u00ebn e shkrimtar\u00ebve, koleg\u00ebve t\u00eb mi n\u00eb shtete t\u00eb ndryshme komuniste. Ka pasur kurthe t\u00eb vazhdueshme, t\u00eb ngritura, por q\u00eb t\u00eb ekzistoj\u00eb nj\u00eb let\u00ebr e till\u00eb, ose e ngjashme, sigurisht q\u00eb kan\u00eb ekzistuar, por nj\u00eb rr\u00ebfim i till\u00eb ndaj shefit komunist t\u00eb nj\u00eb vendi, un\u00eb nuk di t\u00eb ket\u00eb ndodhur. Ose t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb botuar, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb e njohur. Ngjarjen e kam ditur gjithmon\u00eb, ka ndodhur gjysm\u00eb shekulli m\u00eb par\u00eb, por letr\u00ebn nuk e kam ditur se ekzistonte, pale t\u00eb kem ditur p\u00ebrmbajtjen e saj.<\/p>\n

Si u ndjet\u00eb n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb e lexuat t\u00eb gjith\u00eb letr\u00ebn?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jam befasuar jasht\u00ebzakonisht. Nga vet\u00eb letra, p\u00ebrmbajtja e saj dhe nga stili, toni i saj, n\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj ekstaz\u00eb e aktit t\u00eb denoncimit.<\/p>\n

Ajo q\u00eb mua m\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypje zoti Kadare, ndoshta edhe q\u00eb i p\u00ebrkas nj\u00eb brezi tjet\u00ebr, ishte vetofrimi q\u00eb kompozitorja Dhora Leka b\u00ebnte p\u00ebr t\u00eb bashk\u00ebpunuar me organet e Sigurimit. Madje duke b\u00ebr\u00eb edhe v\u00ebrejtje, duke treguar edhe detaje t\u00eb asaj q\u00eb ajo e quante komplot q\u00eb ajo e kishte n\u00eb mendje dhe q\u00eb sigurimi e kishte n\u00eb plan si ide. \u00c7far\u00eb ishte ky? Ishte nj\u00eb rast sporadik apo k\u00ebshtu funksiononte sistemi dhe sidomos ndaj shkrimtar\u00ebve dhe konkretisht ndaj jush?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ishte sistemi natyrisht. Nuk ka gj\u00eb sporadike, nuk ka gj\u00eb t\u00eb pazakonshme, \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb logjik\u00ebn e mbrapsht\u00eb t\u00eb gj\u00ebrave t\u00eb nj\u00eb diktature. Zakonisht n\u00eb nj\u00eb diktatur\u00eb shkrimtar\u00ebt e njohur, filozof\u00ebt e njohur, artist\u00ebt e njohur jan\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjim. Kur ka diktatur\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb vend ka p\u00ebrgjim njer\u00ebzish t\u00eb shquar qofshin k\u00ebta t\u00eb sferave politike, artistike, filozofike. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb nuk ka ndonj\u00eb gj\u00eb t\u00eb jasht\u00ebzakonshme. E jasht\u00ebzakonshme \u00ebsht\u00eb tregimi me pasion i k\u00ebtij aksioni, sesi \u00ebsht\u00eb e mundur q\u00eb njeriu q\u00eb e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb futur n\u00eb kurth nj\u00eb njeri tjet\u00ebr, nj\u00eb koleg t\u00eb saj artist, nuk ka kurrfar\u00eb pendimi, madje ka nj\u00eb lloj krenarie.<\/p>\n

Kjo tregon q\u00eb edhe ai q\u00eb e merrte denoncimin, edhe ai q\u00eb e p\u00ebrgatiste, se k\u00ebtu ka dy an\u00eb. Nj\u00ebra an\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebrgatit kurthin i k\u00ebrkon denoncuesit t\u00eb ngrej\u00eb kurthin, pastaj ai q\u00eb e merr k\u00ebt\u00eb rezultat p\u00ebr ta shfryt\u00ebzuar. K\u00ebtu ka ndodhur nj\u00eb gj\u00eb pak e \u00e7uditshme. Ka nj\u00eb mister, q\u00eb jo gjith\u00e7ka kuptohet e qart\u00eb. Njeriu q\u00eb e ka marr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb, udh\u00ebheq\u00ebsi i vendit, diktatori, shefi si ta quajm\u00eb, ka ditur di\u00e7ka apo s\u2019ka ditur asgj\u00eb. Personazhi nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb gjall\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb jap\u00eb sqarime. Ndoshta ka dokumente t\u00eb tjera t\u00eb fshehura me shum\u00eb kujdes.<\/p>\n

Por edhe mund t\u00eb jen\u00eb zhdukur?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Edhe mund t\u00eb jen\u00eb zhdukur padyshim. Ato q\u00eb jan\u00eb m\u00eb \u201ckompromentuese\u201d. Ndoshta \u00e7do sistem zgjedh dokumentet q\u00eb duhet t\u2019i zhduk\u00eb. Ato q\u00eb mund t\u2019i ruaj nj\u00ebfar\u00ebkohe, ato q\u00eb i djeg p\u00ebrgjithmon\u00eb pam\u00ebshir\u00eb, sepse turpi \u00ebsht\u00eb kaq i madh, saq\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i paduruesh\u00ebm edhe koh\u00eb m\u00eb von\u00eb sikur t\u00eb zbulohen.<\/p>\n

Zoti Kadare, ishte moment q\u00eb ju ishit n\u00eb Berat. Ky ishte shfryt\u00ebzimi i rastit q\u00eb znj. Dhora Leka t\u00eb b\u00ebnte at\u00eb bashk\u00ebpunimin me Sigurimin e Shtetit. A pat\u00ebt ndonj\u00eb moment me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb q\u00eb ju e kuptuat q\u00eb Sh\u00ebrbimi Sekret ju survejonte?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jo, kur erdh\u00ebn k\u00ebto letra\u2026 Historia \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e nd\u00ebrlikuar, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb kaq e thjesht\u00eb. Ka pasur dy lloj letrash. Letra pasionante, romantike, erotike n\u00eb fillim, e m\u00eb pas letra k\u00ebrc\u00ebnuese. Sigurisht nga letrat e para nuk ishte ndonj\u00eb dram\u00eb, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shkrimtar t\u00eb marr\u00eb letra nga nj\u00eb vajz\u00eb, e cila mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb nj\u00eb ngarkes\u00eb erotike, por t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbajtur. Letrat ishin shum\u00eb korrekte, shum\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbajtura, pa asgj\u00eb t\u00eb tepruar. \u00cbsht\u00eb normale. Shkrimtar\u00ebve u q\u00ebllon t\u00eb marrin letra t\u00eb tilla, nuk t\u00eb b\u00ebn ndonj\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypje. Letra t\u00eb tjera jan\u00eb t\u00eb pazakonshme krejt\u00ebsisht, sepse ato jan\u00eb letra q\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebn\u00eb ty n\u00eb pozit\u00ebn e nj\u00eb komplotisti. Ajo shkruante \u201cPse ti nuk vepron bashk\u00eb me ne, besnik\u00ebt e Mosk\u00ebs, p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbysur regjimin?\u201d. \u00cbsht\u00eb e habitshme, ku e gjeti ajo. Nuk e njihja k\u00ebt\u00eb grua, e kisha par\u00eb vet\u00ebm n\u00eb rrug\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Ju e diskutuat me njeri k\u00ebt\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Po, e kam diskutuar me shok\u00ebt e mi. Me disa, jo me nj\u00eb. Kjo mesa duket e b\u00ebri q\u00eb t\u00eb d\u00ebshtonte ky aksion, sepse e humbi fsheht\u00ebsin\u00eb. K\u00ebto letra nuk mundej m\u00eb t\u00eb mi kapte dikush mua, n\u00eb nj\u00eb bastisje, e t\u00eb m\u00eb thonte pse s\u2019i ke treguar. I b\u00ebra bised\u00eb me shok\u00ebt e mi, kisha shum\u00eb shok\u00eb at\u00ebher\u00eb t\u00eb qarkulluar n\u00eb Berat, inxhiniera kryesisht, ndonj\u00eb shkrimtar. Edhe kjo prishje e sekretit dogji rezultatin e tyre.<\/p>\n

Pas vitit \u201890 zonja Leka mori nj\u00ebfar\u00eb vler\u00ebsimi, ose rivler\u00ebsimi. Si e vler\u00ebsoni ju figur\u00ebn e saj? Kur edhe produktet e saj muzikore u vler\u00ebsuan, madje edhe nj\u00eb shkoll\u00eb n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb mori emrin \u201cDhora Leka\u201d. Si i komentoni?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Un\u00eb nuk kam d\u00ebshir\u00eb t\u00eb merrem m\u00eb nj\u00eb bised\u00eb t\u00eb till\u00eb, t\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn. Ajo s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb n\u00eb jet\u00eb. Ajo e ka marr\u00eb mbi nd\u00ebrgjegjen e saj k\u00ebt\u00eb q\u00eb ka ndodhur, ndoshta ka l\u00ebn\u00eb shpjegime n\u00eb nj\u00eb ditar t\u00eb sajin, n\u00eb nj\u00eb let\u00ebrk\u00ebmbim me dik\u00eb t\u00eb af\u00ebrt. Por q\u00eb un\u00eb kam shprehur mendimin dhe i p\u00ebrmbahem k\u00ebtij mendimi. Q\u00eb ajo ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb grua q\u00eb ka vuajtur v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq vuajtja e \u00e7oi n\u00eb nj\u00eb humbje drejtpeshimi mendor, moral, t\u00eb logjik\u00ebs. N\u00eb radh\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb let\u00ebr e pik\u00ebllueshme, q\u00eb t\u00eb arrij deri aty nj\u00eb kompozitor i njohur shqiptar.<\/p>\n

Ka pasur nj\u00eb arsye t\u00eb fsheht\u00eb, arsyeja e par\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb shkon nd\u00ebrmend \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb ka dashur t\u00eb shp\u00ebtoj\u00eb vet\u00eb ajo nga nj\u00eb survejim i keq i shtetit. Paska gjetur nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb me nj\u00eb sh\u00ebrbim t\u00eb till\u00eb, t\u00eb rregulloj\u00eb biografin\u00eb e saj, t\u00eb cil\u00ebn n\u00eb fakt as nuk e rregulloi, as nuk e p\u00ebrkeq\u00ebsoi. Pak a shum\u00eb u duk sikur shteti do ta shqyente 400 copash q\u00eb doli ky sekret, q\u00eb ajo tha ato fjal\u00ebt e famshme n\u00eb mbledhje, q\u00eb nuk e kam b\u00ebr\u00eb me kok\u00ebn time. U mat t\u2019i thoshte dhe nuk e lan\u00eb t\u00eb fliste. Ajo do t\u00eb tregonte mesa duket, e zem\u00ebruar, me nj\u00eb zem\u00ebrim q\u00eb m\u00eb ka habitur dhe ka habitur t\u00eb gjith\u00eb, e patrembur. Me kuptimin q\u00eb un\u00eb i sh\u00ebrbeva Partis\u00eb, i sh\u00ebrbeva Sigurimit si\u00e7 k\u00ebrkohej prej meje dhe un\u00eb k\u00ebrkoj t\u00eb respektohem. Kjo ka qen\u00eb \u00e7udia, befasimi i k\u00ebsaj ngjarje.<\/p>\n

Zoti Kadare, n\u00eb t\u00eb vetmin rast mes shkrimtar\u00ebsh q\u00eb kemi nj\u00eb pendes\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ajo e shkrimtarit Fatos Kongoli, i cili ka shkruajtur nj\u00eb roman, ku shpreh pendes\u00ebn q\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb d\u00ebshmi n\u00eb gjykat\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb kolegun e tij, i cili ishte d\u00ebnuar. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb rasti i par\u00eb dhe i vet\u00ebm q\u00eb nj\u00eb shkrimtar e b\u00ebn k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb. P\u00ebrse nuk kemi raste t\u00eb tjera zoti Kadare q\u00eb t\u00eb ken\u00eb at\u00eb pendes\u00ebn e madhe?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Varet. Pendesa pritet nga nj\u00eb njeri q\u00eb ka di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr t\u2019u penduar. Mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb k\u00ebrkes\u00eb e p\u00ebrgjithshme. Secili p\u00ebrgjigjet p\u00ebrpara nd\u00ebrgjegjes s\u00eb vet.<\/p>\n

Si e vler\u00ebsoni ju rastin e Fatos Kongolit?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ishte nj\u00eb rast i kuptuesh\u00ebm p\u00ebr nj\u00eb njeri q\u00eb e vret nd\u00ebrgjegjja p\u00ebr di\u00e7ka, \u00ebsht\u00eb normale.<\/p>\n

M\u00eb b\u00ebri p\u00ebrshtypje kur po p\u00ebrgatisja intervist\u00ebn, ju keni shp\u00ebtuar nga burgu nj\u00eb t\u00eb ri me emrin Maks, jam befasuar nga ajo q\u00eb ju keni b\u00ebr\u00eb, nga ajo shpirtgjer\u00ebsi. Ai ishte i arrestuar, por mund ta d\u00ebnonin edhe me pushkatim, edhe ju e keni shp\u00ebtuar duke i b\u00ebr\u00eb at\u00eb relacionin hetuesit q\u00eb nuk ka lidhje q\u00eb kjo poezi t\u00eb jet\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb kund\u00ebr pushtetit dhe kund\u00ebr regjimit t\u00eb asaj kohe. Pse Z.Kadare e keni fshehur k\u00ebt\u00eb an\u00eb, q\u00eb ju me ato ekspertiza keni ndihmuar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb rasti i vet\u00ebm q\u00eb ka ndodhur. Nuk m\u00eb ka ndodhur rast tjet\u00ebr. Mua s\u2019m\u00eb drejtoheshin p\u00ebr ekspertiz\u00eb. Por ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb rast unik. Nj\u00eb hetues i cili gjithashtu ishte n\u00eb dilem\u00eb, dhe mbante n\u00eb pranga dik\u00eb n\u00eb burg, i b\u00ebri thirrje nd\u00ebrgjegjes sime si profesionist. \u201cZ. Kadare kam nj\u00eb poet t\u00eb mbyllur n\u00eb qeli. A mund t\u2019iu tregoj ju lutem nj\u00eb vjersh\u00eb t\u00eb tij, vet\u00ebm kaq<\/em>\u201d. Dhe m\u00eb la t\u00eb kuptoj q\u00eb nuk i mbushej mendja se \u00ebsht\u00eb fajtor. Nuk mund t\u2019ia refuzoja, sepse kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb ekspertiz\u00eb. P\u00ebrkundrazi kapa nuanc\u00ebn q\u00eb e mundon di\u00e7ka k\u00ebt\u00eb hetues. Nuk i mbushej mendja. Nuk e tha haptazi, por mesa kuptova un\u00eb. Me shum\u00eb sjellje, shum\u00eb mir\u00ebsjellje. E pash\u00eb q\u00eb ishte tmerruar.<\/p>\n

Un\u00eb nuk kam dashur t\u2019i b\u00ebj reklam\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00ebje q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb normale p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shkrimtar, n\u00ebse ti ke n\u00eb dor\u00eb t\u00eb shp\u00ebtosh nj\u00eb njeri, n\u00ebse t\u00eb vjen dikush dhe t\u00eb thot\u00eb d\u00ebgjo, se i kemi kapur n\u00eb dor\u00eb nj\u00eb vjersh\u00eb k\u00ebtij armikut. Ai m\u00eb tha sesi mendonte zyra e tij.<\/p>\n

I thash\u00eb q\u00eb k\u00ebtu nuk ka asgj\u00eb armiq\u00ebsore. E b\u00ebra pa m\u00ebdyshjen m\u00eb t\u00eb vog\u00ebl, kjo ekziston, gjendet dhe dokumentet jan\u00eb. Hetuesi me duket se jeton. Nuk e kam b\u00ebr\u00eb bised\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mos u dukur si nj\u00eb sjellje e pazakonshme. Nuk ishte as heroiz\u00ebm, ishte nj\u00eb sjellje q\u00eb nuk p\u00ebsoi asgj\u00eb nga kjo. Krejt normale si sjellje.<\/p>\n

Zoti Kadare ju e b\u00ebt\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb gjest. Por nga ana tjet\u00ebr dhe Sigurimi i Shtetit ju ka survejuar nga format m\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme. A keni ndonj\u00eb moment kulmor q\u00eb me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ju e keni vuajtur m\u00eb shum\u00eb sesa denoncimi, apo synimi p\u00ebr kurth q\u00eb donte t\u00eb b\u00ebnte sigurimi i shtetit me Dhora Lek\u00ebn?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jo. K\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb e dija, e merrja me mend edhe prap\u00eb m\u00eb dukej normale p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shtet si yni. Un\u00eb kisha studiuar n\u00eb Mosk\u00eb, n\u00eb kryevendin e p\u00ebrgjimeve, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb shkrimtar\u00ebve t\u00eb shquar ishin t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjuar. Edhe ishte krejt\u00ebsisht normale. P\u00ebr t\u00eb mos th\u00ebn\u00eb q\u00eb ndonj\u00eb shkrimtar q\u00eb ishte i pap\u00ebrgjuar fare, dukej si i pavler\u00ebsuar. Nuk kishte pse t\u00eb shqet\u00ebsonte kjo gj\u00eb. Ne ishim m\u00ebsuar t\u00eb gjith\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb shkalla e p\u00ebrgjimit lidhej me shkall\u00ebn e nivelit t\u00eb shkrimtar\u00ebve?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jo, gjithmon\u00eb. Por shkrimtari \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i leht\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjohet. Ka raste kur edhe n\u00eb per\u00ebndim jan\u00eb p\u00ebrgjuar ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb shkrimtar\u00ebt. Kaq e leht\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shtet, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb polici, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb sh\u00ebrbim sekret t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjoj\u00eb nj\u00eb shkrimtar. \u00cbsht\u00eb si nj\u00eb sport zbavit\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Zoti Kadare sa her\u00eb diskutohet nj\u00eb denoncim, nj\u00eb debat i till\u00eb, b\u00ebhet pyetja e famshme q\u00eb: \u201cPse nuk hapen dosjet?\u201d. M\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypje q\u00eb n\u00eb 1994 \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrmendur fraza q\u00eb n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse hapen dosjet e Sigurimit n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, Shqip\u00ebria ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb kaluar nj\u00eb tragjedi komb\u00ebtare. Si e komentoni ju?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb alibi. Nj\u00eb far\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrligjur mos-hapjen e arkivave t\u00eb fshehta. Un\u00eb e kam pasur mendimin t\u00eb prer\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb. Madje kam b\u00ebr\u00eb shum\u00eb armiq me k\u00ebt\u00eb. Nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e njer\u00ebzve q\u00eb m\u00eb sulmojn\u00eb, ata s\u2019mund t\u00eb thon\u00eb q\u00eb ne po t\u00eb sulmojn\u00eb, q\u00eb t\u00eb hapen dosjet. Por \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e leht\u00eb t\u00eb akuzosh nj\u00eb shkrimtar, nga drejtimet m\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme. Pra mendimi im ka qen\u00eb i prer\u00eb q\u00eb duhen hapur dosjet, duhen hapur arkivat e fshehta. Duhet q\u00eb \u00e7do vend kur kap\u00ebrcen, kalon nga nj\u00eb diktatur\u00eb, gj\u00ebja e par\u00eb q\u00eb b\u00ebn shqyrton pjes\u00ebn e keqe t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjes s\u00eb vet. Pa k\u00ebt\u00eb nuk ka asnj\u00eb emancipim. Ose duket sikur ka ecje p\u00ebrpara, por n\u00eb fakt ka ngecje n\u00eb vend.<\/p>\n

Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb momenti q\u00eb Kasem Trebeshina ka th\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebr momentin e zonj\u00ebs Leka, se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb faji i saj, po i Ismail Kadares\u00eb\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nuk kam asnj\u00eb koment. P\u00ebr mua edhe p\u00ebr asnj\u00eb njeri normal, Kas\u00ebm Trebeshina nuk duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb referenc\u00eb morale. Ka nj\u00eb biografi shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnduar nga kjo an\u00eb.<\/p>\n

N\u00eb \u00e7\u2019kuptim?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ka sh\u00ebrbyer vet\u00eb. Ka qen\u00eb oficer i Sigurimit i Ministris\u00eb s\u00eb Mbrojtjes, q\u00eb quhej n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb Ministri e Brendshme. S\u2019kam d\u00ebshir\u00eb t\u00eb flas p\u00ebr t\u00eb.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrse nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e shkrimtar\u00ebve edhe pse kan\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb njoll\u00ebn q\u00eb ju that\u00eb, vazhdojn\u00eb pas viti 1990 t\u00eb nderohen edhe me \u00e7mime, edhe me rritjen e vler\u00ebs publike. A \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo e moralshme z. Kadare?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kurrsesi. Sigurisht nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e moralshme p\u00ebr asnj\u00eb moral njer\u00ebzor n\u00eb asnj\u00eb rend, n\u00eb asnj\u00eb koh\u00eb, n\u00eb asnj\u00eb sistem shoq\u00ebror. K\u00ebto njer\u00ebz n\u00eb heshtje duhet t\u00eb vuajn\u00eb ato q\u00eb kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb, sa kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb, pa buj\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nd\u00ebshkimi m\u00eb i madh p\u00ebr ta. T\u00eb vuash n\u00eb heshtje edhe pa buj\u00eb, at\u00eb q\u00eb t\u2019i gjen t\u00eb papast\u00ebr n\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjen t\u00ebnde. Q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebhen nderime kur shteti e di \u00e7far\u00eb jan\u00eb, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb normale. \u00cbsht\u00eb t\u00eb kap\u00ebrcehet, t\u00eb b\u00ebhet nj\u00eb mbrapshti morale e pakap\u00ebrcyeshme. S\u2019ka pse t\u2019iu b\u00ebhen nderime.<\/p>\n

S\u2019po them, a duhen nd\u00ebshkuar m\u00eb von\u00eb, apo jo. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb nd\u00ebshkim moral, secili e vuan n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb private. Por ta nderosh nj\u00eb denoncues, nj\u00eb njeri q\u00eb ka marr\u00eb n\u00eb qaf\u00eb njer\u00ebzit \u00ebsht\u00eb akti m\u00eb i keq i njer\u00ebzve. T\u00eb nderosh Jud\u00ebn, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb personazhi m\u00eb i zi i referenc\u00ebs morale bot\u00ebrore t\u00eb njer\u00ebzimit, njeriu m\u00eb i af\u00ebrt i Krishtit, i cili e tradhtoi at\u00eb. Prandaj paradigma e Jud\u00ebs dhe njer\u00ebzve t\u00eb af\u00ebrt q\u00eb rrinin disa her\u00eb rrotull shkrimtar\u00ebve p\u00ebr t\u2019i p\u00ebrgjuar \u00ebsht\u00eb e pafalshme. Akti i tyre \u00ebsht\u00eb i pafalsh\u00ebm. P\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq, tek ne falen.<\/p>\n

Po t\u00eb kthehem tek ajo q\u00eb that\u00eb ju, q\u00eb n\u00ebse hapen dosjet, Shqip\u00ebria ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb kaluar nj\u00eb tragjedi komb\u00ebtare. Nuk ka nj\u00eb tragjedi komb\u00ebtare nga nj\u00eb pastrim i nd\u00ebrgjegjes. T\u00ebr\u00eb vendet e bot\u00ebs e kan\u00eb kryer k\u00ebt\u00eb proces t\u00eb detyruesh\u00ebm, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb i dhimbsh\u00ebm. Por mund t\u00eb them se ata nuk kan\u00eb p\u00ebsuar nj\u00eb tragjedi, asnj\u00ebri prej tyre. E filloi Gjermania, \u00c7ekia, Polonia me shum\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsi Rusia. Askund nuk mund t\u00eb thuhet se ka ndodhur ndonj\u00eb tragjedi. P\u00ebrkundrazi tragjedia ndodh kur nuk hapen. Jemi q\u00eb jemi nd\u00ebrkaq n\u00eb tragjedi. N\u00eb mbyllje t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj t\u00eb fshehte.<\/p>\n

* Marr\u00eb nga emisioni \u201cDebati n\u00eb Channel One\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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