{"id":13038,"date":"2013-08-04T21:51:46","date_gmt":"2013-08-04T20:51:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fjala.info\/?p=4200"},"modified":"2013-08-04T21:51:46","modified_gmt":"2013-08-04T20:51:46","slug":"arben-llalla-4-milione-qytetare-te-greqise-kane-origjine-te-paster-shqiptare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fjala.info\/2009-2015\/arben-llalla-4-milione-qytetare-te-greqise-kane-origjine-te-paster-shqiptare\/","title":{"rendered":"ARBEN LLALLA – ‘4 MILION\u00cb QYTETAR\u00cb T\u00cb GREQIS\u00cb KAN\u00cb ORIGJIN\u00cb T\u00cb PAST\u00cbR SHQIPTARE’"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\" Shekulli<\/strong>, 08.04.2013<\/em><\/p>\n

Historiani Arben Llalla<\/strong> sapo ka p\u00ebrfunduar librin e par\u00eb n\u00eb shqip p\u00ebr \u201cDemografin\u00eb e Viseve Shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut\u201d (Maqedonin\u00eb greke dhe Trakia greke). Ai tregon se p\u00ebr realizimin e tij ka takuar st\u00ebrnipin e \u00c7er\u00e7iz Topullit, kush\u00ebrir\u00ebn e Fan Nolit, Maria Kutulidhin, nipin e Avni Rustemit etj.<\/p>\n

-Pas nj\u00eb pune disa vje\u00e7are historiani Arben Llalla boton t\u00eb dh\u00ebna p\u00ebr demografin\u00eb e fshatrave shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut. T\u00eb dh\u00ebnat fillojn\u00eb q\u00eb n\u00eb vitin 1913, kur dhe filloj shp\u00ebrngulja e shqiptar\u00ebve q\u00eb jetonin n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e sotme. Fillimisht kan\u00eb qen\u00eb rreth 90 vendbanime ku jetonin shqiptar\u00ebt me etnit\u00eb e tjera. Sipas studiuesit Llalla, n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr \u201cShekullin\u201d n\u00eb vitin 1913 n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut flitej gjuha shqipe n\u00eb 59 vendbanime, kurse sot pas 100 vitesh gjuha shqipe flitet n\u00eb 42 fshatra.<\/p>\n

Libri \u201cDemografin e Viseve Shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut\u201d (Maqedonin\u00eb greke dhe Trakia greke) flet dhe p\u00ebr ndikimin e luft\u00ebrave Ballkanike dhe m\u00eb pas atyre Bot\u00ebrore n\u00eb k\u00ebto zona Llalla thot\u00eb se: \u201cpopullsia shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut u gjend p\u00ebrball\u00eb shum\u00eb zjarreve dhe pjesa m\u00eb e madhe u detyrua t\u00eb emigroj\u00eb me dhun\u00eb p\u00ebr n\u00eb Turqi, nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e vog\u00ebl n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri dhe ata q\u00eb mund\u00ebn t\u00eb paguanin shuma n\u00eb t\u00eb holla ushtar\u00ebve grek mbet\u00ebn brenda territorit t\u00eb shtetit grek, derisa dal\u00ebngadal\u00eb filluan t\u00eb asimiloheshin nd\u00ebr vite\u201d. Nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebtyre qyteteve dhe fshatrave Llalla i ka vizituar gjat\u00eb viteve 1991-\u201804, kur ka jetuar n\u00eb Greqi. Ai ka takuar dhe grek\u00eb me origjin\u00eb shqiptare t\u00eb cil\u00ebt ende flisnin shqip. \u201cJam takuar n\u00eb Konic\u00eb me st\u00ebrnipin e \u00c7e\u00e7iz Topullit m\u00eb vitet 1991, 1992, 1997, 1998, quhej Ibrahim, ishte shtetas grek dhe kishte nj\u00eb kafene n\u00eb qend\u00ebr t\u00eb Konic\u00ebs, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq k\u00ebto dit\u00eb d\u00ebgjova nga nj\u00eb gazetar se kishte vdekur\u201d.<\/p>\n

Por cili \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00ebllimi i autorit q\u00eb p\u00ebr disa vjet ka punuar me k\u00ebt\u00eb lib\u00ebr?<\/strong>
\n\u201cQ\u00ebllimi im kryesor n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb lib\u00ebr \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb nxjerr nga pluhuri i harres\u00ebs disa fakte, disa t\u00eb dh\u00ebna q\u00eb na b\u00ebjn\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebsojm\u00eb ku kan\u00eb jetuar dhe jetojn\u00eb njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb n\u00eb venat e tyre kan\u00eb gjak shqiptari, po \u00e7\u2019ka se p\u00ebr interesa ekonomike dhe nga presionet e ndryshme jan\u00eb deklaruar prej shum\u00eb vitesh qytetar t\u00eb nj\u00eb komb\u00ebsie tjet\u00ebr. E ardhmja nuk e dim\u00eb se \u00e7far\u00eb befasish na ofron…\u201d.<\/p>\n

Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb libri i par\u00eb n\u00eb shqip ku lexuesit mund t\u00eb njihet me demografin\u00eb e fshatrave shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Maqedonin\u00eb e Egjeut dhe Trakin\u00eb greke. Burimet kryesore q\u00eb Llalla ka p\u00ebrdorur kan\u00eb qen\u00eb librat Etnografik t\u00eb studiuesve francez, gjerman, serb, bullgar\u00eb dhe grek si Ami Boues, Adolphe Joanne, Emile Isambert, Guilaume Lejean, J. Lewis Farley, Joannoy N. Kallostipi, Kleanthis Nikolaidhis, Aleksandros Dagas, Nikolaos Th. Shina, Dhimitri Lithoksou, Athanasios Halkopulos, Spiridon Gopshevi\u00e7, Borivoje Millojevi\u00e7, Vasili K\u00ebn\u00e7ov, Dimitar Mishev \u2013 Brancoff etj.<\/p>\n

Si lindi libri \u201cDemografia e Viseve Shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut\u201d (Maqedonin\u00eb greke dhe Trakia greke)?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Para disa vitesh kam botuar disa studime rreth fshatrave shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb Janin\u00eb, More-Pelomponezi, Follirin, Kostur dhe Tiqeri, por disa historian me tituj prof.dr t\u00eb cil\u00ebt b\u00ebjn\u00eb histori nga zyrat politike dhe kamerat televizive filluan ti kopjonin studimet e mia pa m\u00eb cituar, pati edhe nga ata q\u00eb b\u00ebnin copi dhe paste. K\u00ebshtu, mendova t\u00eb filloj mbledhjen e materialeve p\u00ebr botimin e librit. Deri tani p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq nuk ka asnj\u00eb lib\u00ebr p\u00ebr demografin\u00eb e viseve shqiptare n\u00eb Ballkan, prandaj kemi edhe mungesa t\u00eb informacioneve sepse shpeshher\u00eb studiuesit q\u00eb jan\u00eb marr\u00eb me k\u00ebto studime i paraqesin shqiptar\u00ebt si turq, bullgar, serb dhe grek.<\/p>\n

Sa ka qen\u00eb numri i vendbanimeve shqiptare n\u00eb t\u00eb cilat flitej shqip?<\/strong><\/p>\n

N\u00eb lib\u00ebr un\u00eb flas vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr vendbanimet shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut e njohur ndryshe Maqedonia e Egjeut dhe Trakia greke. N\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut flitej gjuha shqipe n\u00eb 59 vendbanime, t\u00eb cilat 22 ishin n\u00eb prefektur\u00ebn e Kosturit, 23 n\u00eb prefektur\u00ebn e Follorin\u00ebs, 5 n\u00eb prefektur\u00ebn e Dhram\u00ebs, 3 n\u00eb Ksanthi etj. Ka nga ata studiues shqiptar\u00eb q\u00eb japin deklarata se ka pasur 60 apo 100 fshatra, por nuk japin t\u00eb dh\u00ebna vet\u00ebm flasin kot. Mendoj q\u00eb mbi pasionin edhe emocionet duhet th\u00ebn\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta shkencore ashtu si\u00e7 ka qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Jam munduar t\u00eb jem sa m\u00eb objektiv p\u00ebr t\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb dhe mbrojtur t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn e k\u00ebtyre fshatrave dhe banor\u00ebve t\u00eb tyre, at\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ne d\u00ebshirojm\u00eb ta d\u00ebgjojm\u00eb, ta shohim e ta prekim, por e v\u00ebrteta rrall\u00eb her\u00eb pranohet ashtu si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb sepse ajo mund t\u00eb na duket e hidhur dhe t\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtoj\u00eb interesat tona t\u00eb ngushta kalimtare. Prefektura e Kosturit deri n\u00eb vitin 1920 njihej si Shqip\u00ebri, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn nga kartolinat e koh\u00ebs q\u00eb jan\u00eb botuar n\u00eb Franc\u00eb dhe shitur n\u00eb Europ\u00eb, ku qytetin e Kosturit e p\u00ebrcaktonin si Shqip\u00ebri.<\/p>\n

Vazhdon t\u00eb flitet ende n\u00eb shqip n\u00eb k\u00ebto vendbanime?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sot, pas 100 vitesh, pra m\u00eb 2013 n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut gjuha shqipe flitet n\u00eb 42 fshatra, prej t\u00eb cilat 7 ndodhen n\u00eb prefektur\u00ebn e Follorin\u00ebs, 19 ndodhen n\u00eb prefektur\u00ebn e Evros, 3 n\u00eb Selanik, 5 n\u00eb Serres, 4 n\u00eb Ksanthi, etj. Kur them flitet gjuha shqipe ende, kam parasysh t\u00eb v\u00ebrtetuar n\u00eb baz\u00eb t\u00eb shkenc\u00ebs, deklaratave t\u00eb tyre dhe medieve greke. Pra, un\u00eb si mb\u00ebshtet\u00ebs kam shfryt\u00ebzuar m\u00eb shum\u00eb burimet greke duke ua mbyllur goj\u00ebn replikave t\u00eb tyre q\u00eb mund t\u00eb kemi p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb lib\u00ebr. Kurse n\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb Greqin\u00eb gjuha shqipe duhet t\u00eb flitet n\u00eb rreth 1.5 milion njer\u00ebz dhe rreth 4 milion grek kan\u00eb origjin\u00eb t\u00eb past\u00ebr shqiptare. P\u00ebr k\u00ebto ekzistojn\u00eb materiale me boll\u00ebk n\u00ebp\u00ebr arkivat greke.<\/p>\n

Fotografit q\u00eb p\u00ebrdorni n\u00eb lib\u00ebr, \u00e7far\u00eb tregojn\u00eb konkretisht?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Fotot jan\u00eb nga jeta e shqiptar\u00ebve n\u00eb, Follorin\u00eb, Kostur, Negovan-Flamburo, Bellkambe-Dhrosopigi, Selanik si p\u00ebr shembull sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e figur\u00ebs s\u00eb shquar, Hasan Prishtin\u00ebs. K\u00ebto nd\u00ebrtesa jan\u00eb ende pasuri shtet\u00ebrore n\u00eb Greqi, por q\u00eb i p\u00ebrkasin shtetit shqiptar. Ka foto nga dekorimi i Esat Pash Toptanit m\u00eb gusht 1917 n\u00eb Selanik nga gjenerali francez Serraiti si dhe pritja madh\u00ebshtore q\u00eb ju b\u00eb Toptanit m\u00eb 1916, po n\u00eb Selanik.<\/p>\n

Ka nj\u00eb foto t\u00eb pllakat\u00ebs s\u00eb kish\u00ebs Sh\u00ebn Athanasi n\u00eb Kostur ku jan\u00eb sh\u00ebnuar emrat e Teodor dhe Stoj\u00eb Muzak\u00ebs. Jan\u00eb edhe disa fotografi interesante t\u00eb vitit 1923 nga shk\u00ebmbimi i popullsis\u00eb myslimane nga Greqia p\u00ebr n\u00eb Turqi, ku shihen njer\u00ebz duke vajtuar sepse me dhun\u00eb braktisin sht\u00ebpit\u00eb e tyre, pasurit\u00eb e \u00e7do gj\u00eb t\u00eb \u00e7muar dhe nisen n\u00eb drejtim t\u00eb paditur se \u00e7far\u00eb jete i pret. Kam p\u00ebrdorur gjithashtu dhe foto t\u00eb refugjat\u00ebve t\u00eb ardhur nga Rusia, Kaukazi dhe Azia e Vog\u00ebl t\u00eb cil\u00ebt u vendos\u00ebn n\u00eb sht\u00ebpit\u00eb dhe tokat e mysliman\u00ebve turq, shqiptar\u00eb, pomak etj.<\/p>\n

Besimi fetar i banor\u00ebve ka qen\u00eb mysliman, por sa ka ndryshuar me koh\u00ebn?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Greqia u pastrua pothuajse nga elementi shqiptar mysliman 100%, ka rreth 150 mij\u00eb mysliman turq dhe pomak. Sot n\u00eb fshatrat ku flitet gjuha shqipe banor\u00ebt i p\u00ebrkasin besimit ortodoks.<\/p>\n

Po p\u00ebrsa i p\u00ebrket personave q\u00eb ke takuar personalisht n\u00eb Greqi gjat\u00eb viteve 1991-\u201904, n\u00eb Greqi, Vazhdojn\u00eb ti ruajn\u00eb ende traditat?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jam takuar n\u00eb Konic\u00eb me st\u00ebrnipin e \u00c7e\u00e7iz Topullit m\u00eb 1991, 1992, 1997, 1998, quhej Ibrahim, ishte shtetas grek dhe kishte nj\u00eb kafene n\u00eb qend\u00ebr t\u00eb Konic\u00ebs, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq k\u00ebto dit\u00eb d\u00ebgjova nga nj\u00eb gazetar i njohur q\u00eb kishte vdekur. Kam miq\u00ebsi me shqiptar\u00ebt ortodoks t\u00eb Prefektur\u00ebs s\u00eb Evros, nj\u00eb nd\u00ebr ta Kosta Kazaqi, i cili m\u00eb ka ndihmuar shum\u00eb n\u00eb studimet e mia, me nj\u00eb kush\u00ebrir\u00eb t\u00eb Fan Nolit, Maria Kutulidhi e cila jetonte n\u00eb Selanik dhe jemi takuar me dhjet\u00ebra her\u00eb. M\u00eb kan\u00eb ndihmuar edhe nipi i Avni Rustemit, djali i motr\u00ebs s\u00eb tij, i cili jetonte n\u00eb Selanik dhe quhej Gjeorgjio. Pa folur p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndierin Aristidh Kola, i cili m\u00eb besoj para se t\u00eb vdiste nj\u00eb arkiv me libra dhe revista nga jeta e arvanitasve. M\u00eb kan\u00eb ndihmuar edhe studiues grek t\u00eb cil\u00ebt e duan realitetin dhe t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn. Dhe shum\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebr arsye t\u00eb njohura nuk dua tua p\u00ebrmend emrin se mos d\u00ebmtohen…<\/p>\n

Ndikimi i Luft\u00ebrave Ballkanike dhe Bot\u00ebrore n\u00eb asimilim <\/strong><\/p>\n

Gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebrave Ballkanike dhe Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Par\u00eb Bot\u00ebrore popullsia shqiptare n\u00eb Greqin\u00eb e Veriut u gjend p\u00ebrball\u00eb shum\u00eb zjarreve dhe pjesa m\u00eb e madhe u detyrua t\u00eb emigroj\u00eb me dhun\u00eb p\u00ebr n\u00eb Turqi, nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e vog\u00ebl n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri dhe ata q\u00eb mund\u00ebt t\u00eb paguanin shuma n\u00eb t\u00eb holla ushtar\u00ebve grek p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndenjur brenda territorit t\u00eb shtetit grek dhe pse me kalimin e viteve do t\u00eb asimiloheshin dal\u00ebngadal\u00eb. Shqiptar\u00ebt gjat\u00eb periudh\u00ebs s\u00eb Perandoris\u00eb Osmane u d\u00ebmtuan m\u00eb shum\u00eb nga t\u00eb gjith\u00eb edhe pse ata p\u00ebrqafuan n\u00eb mas\u00eb t\u00eb madhe islamin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

N\u00eb dukje shqiptar\u00ebt g\u00ebzonin privilegje n\u00eb Perandorin\u00eb Osmane n\u00eb krahasim me popujt e tjer\u00eb si grek\u00ebt, serb\u00ebt, bullgar\u00ebt, armen\u00ebt etj., por n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, shqiptar\u00ebve, nuk iu lejua pavar\u00ebsimi i kish\u00ebs ortodokse, nuk iu lejua hapja e shkollave n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn shqipe, etj. Shqiptar\u00ebt ishin t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb nga Perandoria Osmane iu lejua t\u00eb themelonin shtetin e tyre t\u00eb pavarur dhe kjo fal\u00eb p\u00ebrkrahjes s\u00eb shteteve si SHBAja, Italia dhe mbret\u00ebris\u00eb Austro-Hungareze. Turqia p\u00ebr interesat e saj gjithnj\u00eb lidhi marr\u00ebveshje zyrtare me Greqin\u00eb, Serbin\u00eb, Bullgarin\u00eb dhe Rusin\u00eb n\u00eb d\u00ebm t\u00eb interesave dhe tokave shqiptare. Nga viti 1912-1924, n\u00eb sht\u00ebpit\u00eb e shqiptar\u00ebve, turqve, mysliman\u00ebve t\u00eb tjer\u00eb dhe bullgar\u00ebve t\u00eb p\u00ebrz\u00ebn\u00eb nga Greqia u vendos\u00ebn refugjat\u00eb t\u00eb ardhur nga Azia e Vog\u00ebl.<\/p>\n

K\u00ebta refugjat\u00eb shteti grek q\u00ebllimisht i vendosi n\u00eb zonat e banuara n\u00eb shumic\u00eb jogreke si n\u00eb Atik\u00eb-Beoti ku banojn\u00eb arvanitasit, n\u00eb zon\u00ebn e Maqedonis\u00eb ku banonin shqiptar\u00eb, bullgar\u00eb, turq, hebrenj dhe n\u00eb Trakia, me q\u00ebllim q\u00eb me kalimin viteve t\u00eb b\u00ebheshin ndryshimet gjuh\u00ebsore dhe kulturore, pra atje ku grek\u00ebt ishin pakic\u00eb me ardhjen e refugjat\u00ebve do b\u00ebheshin shumic\u00eb. Sipas statistikave numri i refugjat\u00ebve t\u00eb ardhur n\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb Greqin\u00eb pas vitit 1912, ishte 1.221.849 njer\u00ebz, rreth 20% t\u00eb popullsis\u00eb s\u00eb at\u00ebhershme q\u00eb jetonte n\u00eb Greqi. Nga k\u00ebta refugjat\u00eb 638.253 prej tyre u vendos\u00ebn n\u00eb Maqedonin\u00eb e Egjeut.<\/p>\n

Kjo shif\u00ebr p\u00ebrb\u00ebnte 45% t\u00eb popullsis\u00eb s\u00eb p\u00ebrgjithshme n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb krahin\u00eb. Nga ana antropologjike, gjuh\u00ebsore dhe veshja tradicionale refugjat\u00ebt e ardhur nuk kan\u00eb lidhje me qytet\u00ebrimin antik grek dhe me luft\u00ebtar\u00ebt q\u00eb themeluan Greqin\u00eb Moderne t\u00eb 1821. Ata m\u00eb shum\u00eb ndihen n\u00eb zakone si turq dhe sllav\u00eb aziatik se sa grek, trash\u00ebgimtar\u00eb t\u00eb Sofokliut, Aristotelit, Herodotit, Kolokotronit, Bo\u00e7arit, Karaiskaqit, Kunduriotit, Pangallos, etj. K\u00ebt\u00eb shqet\u00ebsim, p\u00ebr dallimin e racave brenda vet\u00eb popullit grek e ka shprehur edhe shkrimtari dhe poeti grek Niko Dhimu n\u00eb 23 qershor 2009, n\u00eb gazet\u00ebn NY TIMES.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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